This book is about love and trust--incest, murder and what can only be called a miracle
My tragic story awakened the country to the taboo of being sexually, physically and mentally abused while finding the strength to endure it all. I was a victim of the worst kind, but finally there were a few who gave me the love and support I needed to become a survivor. For those who are fortunate enough to never have known abuse, the raw truth in this book will open the door that allows you to see into our world.
I was only sixteen years old when, out of desperation, I hired a schoolmate to kill my father after years of his sexual, physical and mental abuse. Incest is one of those things frequently swept under the carpet, and that was especially true in 1986. No one wants to believe it exists, even now, but let’s call it what it is—rape. In my case, it led to murder.
I DISCOVERED AT LEAST 20 PEOPLE SUSPECTED WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO ME--NONE OF THEM HELPED!
I DISCOVERED AT LEAST 20 PEOPLE SUSPECTED WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO ME--NONE OF THEM HELPED!
During my trial I discovered dozens of adults apparently suspected what was happening to me, but nobody did anything to help me! For whatever reasons they had, these adults kept quiet and never came forward until it was too late. Then there were the other adults, the ones who questioned why, as the child living in the terrorizing environment with the abuser, I had not been the one to come forward to tell anyone.
There
were people who gave up on me and a lot of people who didn’t believe in me, but
the few that did are the only ones that counted.
I'D PROMISED MY DYING MOTHER TO PROTECT MY SISTER
I’d promised my mother as she lay in
her coffin that I would watch out for my younger sister JoAnn. That I would
always protect her from him. I was not much more than a child myself, but I knew I couldn't let my little sister be raped by the monster my father had
become behind our closed doors. I
stood trial for arranging his murder, spent time in jail, and although helped
by extensive therapy, I do have lifelong PTSD.
Throughout
my trial and afterward newscasters speculated, righteous people pointed their
fingers at me, my father’s relatives and so many others lambasted me. Some
people said I lied about the abuse and wanted him dead for the insurance money.
None of them had an understanding of what I’d endured or how successfully my
father controlled me through fear of what would happen if I didn’t obey his
every command. Those people couldn’t feel the terror that filled me every
minute of every day—the desperation that consumed me especially when he
threatened to go after my eight-year-old sister. The signs were there. He had
begun to do the same things to her he did with me when I was ten and the abuse had
first started.
As an adult I’m not the same terrified,
beaten teen anymore. I have risen above being a victim and found my strength. The
strength I called upon when my husband Rob needed me to be the strong one. When he was pronounced dead on my forty-third
birthday, I refused to give up on him. I pleaded with the doctors tp keep trying to revive him. The man who was my salvation for so many years just couldn't be dead. To their own astonishment, they brought him back to life after he was dead for forty-three
minutes. Today he is alive and almost completely back to normal, working again as an oncology nurse. The doctors called it what it was—a miracle.
I WROTE THIS BOOK TO HELP OTHERS LIKE ME
I WROTE THIS BOOK TO HELP OTHERS LIKE ME
My
desire to help other people has always been there, and I hope by writing this
book it will send the message that you are strong enough to get through
anything you set your mind to. If you feel you are all alone, please remember
those of us who have walked in your shoes are there for you. We belong to a
certain kind of club. A club no one chooses to be a part of, but once you are
in you can never get out. Abuse or trauma of any kind is our bond and the
reason we embrace the need to help each other.
This
book isn’t just about the murder and trial. It’s also about what followed.
During our years of living a normal life—which was something I’d never had in
my youth—we had no idea disaster would strike again with such a vengeance.
From the day I met Rob our
lives have been so intertwined, my story is Rob’s story
and his is mine.
As you
read, you may think some of what we say is dramatized or even made up, but
nothing is fiction. Everything is backed up with
documentation.
~Cheryl Pierson Cuccio
I'm eager to read this book. I was abused as a child too and no one believed me. Many people just told me not to tell anyone. I suffered mentally and emotionally for years. I saw the TV movie about you as a young teen and I felt I wasn't alone in my suffering. Thank you for having the courage to speak out.
ReplyDeleteHi Ashley, When I read your comment my heart had such mixed emotions. First I was so happy that you took the time out of your day to write a comment on our blog that my story had impacted your life. Second it also made me sad that you too had to endure something so devastatingly painful in your young life. I hope our book will help you realize if not for nothing else that you are not alone in your feelings and you can and will over come anything you set your mind to. I am sorry no one back then believed you and that is truly the hardest part. Know that I do, and will always be a friendly ear to listen if you need me to be. You can blog me anytime and I will always answer you back. Stay Strong your friend Cheryl
DeleteHi Thank you so much I too was abused by my uncle, I was 3 or 4, of course i don't remember all that much, but my therapist i saw for many years believed something happened to me back then, a few years ago my sister told me that uncle was sexually abuse his daughter, I was at his home many of a day at 3 because my mom was in hospital in city with my dying brother, he had cancer died at 15, even after it was found out that my uncle was a abuser no one believed me, i always hated him wanted to kill him I wanted my dad to kick his ass,none of that happened now I'm old and still not completely over that.
ReplyDeletethank you for your strength !!
Ginny
ps I must get book!!
I am sorry for your pain. I hope our book will show you that you are not alone in the things that happened to you and that it was not your fault. You have a right to feel angry but know that you can overcome any obstacle you set you mind too and what happen especially to you does not have to define you as an adult. Keep strong. You should be proud of yourself. You are a survivor ☺ Feel free to reach out to talk anytime .Take care!
DeleteFirst Degree murdering pieces of shit!
ReplyDeleteWhat is it about New York that values life so little?
Maybe your completely right Mr.Les Garten because what my father did to me day in and day out he didn't deserve to die quickly and painless wishing all my life that maybe I should have just killed myself instead so I would still have a lifetime of all this emotional scars and torment from what he did to me. And if I were dead then he could of had fresh meat and moved on to my 8 year sister or maybe he would have waited until she was 10 at least like me. I guess we will never know. I'm not sure what state your from but I'm glad that possibly you have never been affected by any kind of abuse or just maybe you feel that way because you feel guilty over something!!!! Thanks for your comment that's why I will continue to fight for our cause!
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DeleteLes Garten continues to post, and each one is nastier. Unfortunately, we will have to delete future posts because this blog is about helping others in the same position Cheryl was in, not calling them liars. That is why so many abuse cases go unreported, and -- yes -- many abuse victims die. There are many more organizations to help incest and abuse victims now. That was not the case in 1986. Mr. Garten, you are entitled to your opinions, but maybe you should read the posts of so many other abuse victims who have been helped by this book because they understand exactly the position Cheryl found herself and her vulnerable sister facing.
DeleteThank you Morgan for stepping in an such an appropriate reply. Cheryl you did and continue to do the best that you can. Use every trigger as an opportunity to heal.
DeleteLes Garten the only piece of shit I see here is YOU ^^^^^^
DeleteThank you, Les, for speaking THE TRUTH.
DeleteHi Cheryl. I'm sorry it happened to you. I read this story in 1989 and was haunted by it. People who were never abused won't understand. You guys did what you had to when you were just kids. It was first degree but justified in my opinion. I'm glad you had Rob to help you (emotionally). I'm surprised that you guys got married and are still together which is wonderful to know! I saw your episode on I Witness, but missed the beginning. Will have to see again. Will check out book. Good luck with the rest of your life!
ReplyDeleteThank you
DeleteYeah, y'all didn't like a little truth laid on ya...
ReplyDeleteLes --- where do I begin , well it seems to me you have a problem, one you don't have the slightest clue of what your talking about, you may have an opinion and that's fine but how dare you be so vulgar and abusive to someone who has been abused for many years, maybe it could be because your an abuser yourself ?? I would like to know why I have some much interest and so much to say about something you know nothing about, unless of course you do know something... you sir and people like you are the reasons why raped and molested people don't come forward and I must say ... I myself would have done the same thing and have that son of a bitch murdered he didn't deserve justice he got what he deserved ... how dare anyone especially a parent raped their own child.. that is a sick sick person and in no way was anyone going to believe a child who's father was so vulgar and nasty that people feared him when all along he was a coward, because of the abuse he did ... les maybe you should find a hobby, get some help or counseling your self
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DeleteYou are an idiot !!! Air time and sell books , hmmm maybe Cheryl has found courage over the last 30+ years to finally speak about the pig animal her father was, people have opinions and that's great, but when a stranger comes on a blog being a bully and being abusive makes me wonder what kind of person are you ? Makes me wonder did you know the family or have some personal ties? Or maybe you are an abuser yourself ? We're u abused ? What makes you say such hateful things .... please I'd love to know because you seem to be begging for attention which being so vulgar and nasty isn't doing you much good but it doesn't seem you have very much good in you and who the hell do you think you are talking to Cheryl and Rob and Morgan the way you do .... u want to post an opinion great .... you want to be nasty GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!! Get a life or a job or something but don't you dare be abusive to someone who has to deal with nightmares, pain, hurt , you don't know what Cheryl has to deal with on a daily basis and in my eyes Cheryl is a hero and that bastard deserved what he got... and as for Cheryl's little sister she's very lucky to have someone care and love her so much that she would never let anyone hurt her .... Cheryl is hero !!! So Les take your negative nasty comments somewhere else
I posted a long post that addressed a lot of things that people didn't like, so they deleted it.
DeleteMurder is a Moral and Legal sin.
There are many solutions to this problem
1) Run away
2) Tell your teachers
3) Tell the police
4) Call the newspaper
5) Tell the rest of the family
etc, etc, etc
I got a million of them. NONE of these things were done.
FIRST degree pre-meditated murder was done. The guys who served long time in Jail, his life was ruined.
When you kill someone, you take away the only thing that we really possess, or life, all else is an illusion.
I hold murderers in utter contempt.
Let say this ABUSE occurred, even though there is no evidence that it did, that man should have gone to jail for a long time, not be premeditated murdered.
Since you started, tell us all the other things you would murder people for doing?
Solutions you say !!! Hmmm go to a principle that the father was very close, tell family members that would never believe Cheryl because the father paid for all of the families bills, tell a teacher who would call the abusive father so when she got home she would get beat, run away you say and leave an 8 year old child there with a monster who was raping you... wow you got good suggestions except one problem Les, the father beat his child and was raping his daughter, do you honestly think that would have made it better , ??? Gone to jail you think he would have went absolutely not, he would have gotten away with it, he had a lot of many and many people were too afraid of him to go against him and as far as the guy who murdered the monster well he seems to make out pretty well for himself running an education program so.... until you know facts about any of this , keep your opinion about should've could've would've to yourself because what's done is done and that monster got what he deserved... maybe if you were getting raped and threaten by your father you may feel differently and who are you to judge
DeleteMorgan St James, hopefully nobody perceives one of your loved ones did them wrong and blows their Brains out.
ReplyDeleteAmazing that people come out to justify First Degree Murder and sell some books and some air time
Les did someone do you wrong or blow one of your family members brains out ??? That's just a nasty thing to say and if I recall the fathers brains were not blown out ,
DeleteIt's First Degree Murder, there is no excuse for it.
DeleteJust walk away
You sir should take your own advice.... and walk far far away .... like I said before WHO THE HELL ARE YOU !!!! Do you have ties to this case , ???
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DeleteJust walk away was what she should have done, or call the Police.
DeleteCheryl admiited to committing First Degree Murder, Murder for hire. The person she "hired" to kill her father got real time, not enough time, but his life was ruined.
I guess you are friend or Family of the Murderer?
Did you watch the I, Witness story that came on before this one?
That story was about a girl almost the same age as Cheryl who conned her older boyfriend into committing murder to keep her mother from calling the police on her boyfriend for statutory rape charges. Sound familiar? Why do you think they ran those stories together?
Just walk away and let her little sister be raped by a monster ???? I really want to know what makes you so interested and nasty about this case ??? What's your story Les ? Nothing better to do or do you have something to hide and your afraid ..... and yes you need to walk away this blog is to help survivors feel safe ... not to have some pompous ass like yourself ridicule People who have been through enough and I must be related ??? Whys that ? Because I feel what your doing is wrong and have no right to post the crap you post ???? You really should get a job
DeleteThis page is about selling books and providing Contact info for her "Agent", where her "Appearances" are, and of course making money. You use the time tested attack policies of trying to smear and call the questioner names instead of addressing the real question, defending a whole group of people who committed First Degree Murder.
DeleteThe Police were not notified of this supposed abuse, school counselors weren't, the teachers weren't, family wasn't, Newspapers, Doctors, NOBODY. Nobody was told of all this abuse.
Oh there's an agent ??? Good to know do you know the agent I would love to get ahold of this "agent" I know you were alive in 1986 and back then things weren't spoken about like they are now... a whole group ????? What's your deal Les why so angry ... yes I'm going to question you because you are the only one spewing hate but I see others who have been in the same situation of abuse coming forward
DeleteHow do you know this ?? Who are you ?? Are you part of the family? How do you know all of this information.... because you seem to have a whole a lot of information....
I'm actually done talking with you Les have a good life ... move on, this will be the last time I respond to your ridiculous comments and opinions you need help sir ....
Janis, you have some issues with reading comprehension don't you?
DeleteIf you go to the Contact Page here, you'll see the "Agents" contact info as well as the rest of the Conspirators with the exception of Sean Pica the "Homeroom Hit Man."
She was found to be pregnant with her boyfriends baby who would have been charged with Statutory Rape. Why aren't you talking about that rape? Maybe a motive to murder the dad, just like the story beore hers on Investigation Discovery?
In 1985 a lot of people went to jail for false accusations of child rape. All those daycares that the children said all kinds of things about were found to be untrue. So your allegation that "everyone" would not have helped Cheryl are crap on it's face.
Why'd she kiss her father's coffin at the funeral? Riddle me that.
You are defending murderers plain and simple who want to capitalize on the murder of her father with books, TV shows and sounds like they are trying to swing a movie.
She has an Agent for God's sake...
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DeleteI have so many questions can you help?
ReplyDeleteWhat do you need help with Erica?
DeleteI read your book and you don't give to many details on your abuse with your dad you talk a lot more about your present struggles with your husband. Anyway you can explain to me more the best you can the abuse you had to go threw from your father in trying to get a sense of your story and try to understand my moms abuse by her father. I have never been abused and I thank the lord everyday for that! Thanks again Cheryl
DeleteUnless I missed something which I might have in your book but I have read it for a bit and I just see seen the id story on tv and you did great!
DeleteI just want to understand your story the best I can for my own sanity from what my grandpa did to my mother. She does talk to him like it didn't even happen breaks my heart
Erica I'm not sure what kind of personal details you are exactly looking for. I thought I have given more than enough in our book but just know every abuser is different anyway and your mom might not have suffered the same as me or anyone else exactly .Abuse comes in many different forms and she would need to talk and tell you what had happened to her in order for you to understand and help her through it and by her talking about it is her first way of getting through the healing process. Also she might still be talking to your grandfather like it didn't happen because she is in denial. If you admit the abuse than it happened and then you have to deal with the pain and some people aren't ready for that. She has to be ready! My father controled every part of my life. He was very scary .Heather threaten to kill me if I told anyone about the incest that happen 2 to 3 times a day and he was physical and verbally abusive as well. I lived in fear constantly for me and my 8 year old sister. I'm not sure what else you would want me to tell you other than that. I hope it helped.your mom needs to talk to someone
DeleteMy father has tried to help her for 17 years and she's just not going to change or get as well as we would hope. I just wanted to know more stories on how your fathers abuse was making you feel and think because it's so close to what my mom went thru being that it was her father and the same age is just closer to your story then many I could talk to and ask about. Did you say heather?? Threaten to kill you or your father? You said your grandfather came over once and you and your dad were in bed how did you not want to confirm that with your grandma? My mom won't even talk to me like a mother she's got a lot of issues with communication she's been drinking for along time and has finally stopped for awhile now for about 3 years but I can't have a relationship with my mother
DeleteHi Erica, I meant to say he even not heather.it was a type o. Sorry. There is no heather.as fat as my grandfather I did not know he saw my and my father until after he and my grandmother had passed. I was told from someone who testified at my hearing so I could not confront anybody.
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DeleteHi Cheryl,
ReplyDeleteI just saw your story on I Witness. My heart knows and shares your pain and journey well. I too lived with many years of incest, violence and other trauma. You did an amazing job of sharing your story. I am so thankful that the justice system was not too harsh and that your husband stayed by your side. I pray that you are able to continue to overcome all the negative messages. Helping others helps doesn't it. I am a counselor and continue in counseling as needed. I have finally accepted that there may always be another layer and that is ok. Thank you for your courage and strength. I pray that you will know the unconditional love and peace of Christ with each passing day as I also am learning to rest in His love.
Thank you so much for your kind words and your strength. I am sorry for your pain also. I hope the show on the ID channel and our book Incest Murder and a Miracle will help other victims and survivors know that they are not alone and it does not define them and is never their fault. Thank you again.God Bless you and stay strong.
DeleteCheryl~
ReplyDeleteYou are a true hero and survivor ... don't let anyone tell you different especially ignorant people, your amazing and your family is very lucky to have you, you did what you had to and he got what he deserved ... stay strong YOU GOT THIS
You see multiple references to "air time." Yes, air time is very important because that is what is helping Cheryl and Rob deliver their message of hope and courage to (1) those who are victims and live in fear, and (2) those who have no idea of what a victim endures and what drives them to certain actions, or in most cases prevents them from reporting the abuse or taking action. This is a message based in love and encouragement, and the media is necessary to help deliver it. Trust me, writing this book was a gut-wrenching experience in order to help others. Look at some of the Amazon reviews. Victims are coming forward knowing that they are not alone. We use this blog to boost awareness and in some cases post sites and agencies that offer hope.
ReplyDeleteI just found out recently that my sister was also raped by one of our family members our cousin and she was 10 and my mom didn't believe her and now that she has finally told my father they are saying it's not true because our cousin was also 10 years old at the time so it would be impossible. I talked with my husband and he said it's not I know it's not because I see 11 year old boys being suxually active with their girlfriends
ReplyDeleteHow can I help my sister out besides talking about the abuse to help her get threw it
Hi Erica
DeleteI'm really sorry I must have missed your post.as far as your post i am not by any means a professional so I would say maybe you should take your sister to see one. Mine really helped me a lot. Just be there for her.let her you you believe her and if in fact the abuse did happen make sure she knows it's not her fault. That means the most. Always be there for her.that's a all you can do.
Hi Cheryl- I just watched your story on the ID channel and you are so brave for sharing the humiliating torture you endured. I love that you and Rob married!
ReplyDeleteDo you still speak with your sister>?
I wish you and your family the best!
Hi thank you for reaching out to me and for your kind words. Me and my sister and our brother Jimmy are all extremely close. We have all stuck together through some hard times and protected each other. Thank you again.
DeleteCheryl, some just don't understand the long term affect of child rape. Yes, you were a child! How it affects almost every aspect of your life, especially relationships. After 29 years, Robert must of really loved you and vice versa. I know sooo many victims that took the drug and alcohol road unable to cope with horrific child abuse. To that idiot Les,you just don't walk away because it follows you threw life.In 1985, the authorities probably would of put her back into the house of horrors with different consequences. Cheryl keep speaking loud and louder until they hear you. Start a social media campaign...Name your abuser! Silence is Golden for the abuser! Good Luck with your mission and ignore the haters.
ReplyDeleteYou are so right about the authorities, Caching. I worked on another book with an abuse victim/survivor before this one, "La Bella Mafia," and that is exactly what happened to Bella Capo when she was eleven. The system took her out of a loving foster home and gave her back to her abusive father. Her mother was in drug rehab, having taken that route to deal with her own abuse by this man. After Bella was forced back into her father's home, although she begged Child Protective Services not to make her go back, he beat her and threw her down the stair and broke her back. Bella has also become a very strong woman due to what she endured and, like Cheryl, works on behalf of abuse victims.
DeleteI know everyone has their own opinions about how things should be handled in these situations, and many say go to the authorities. They should look up statistics on children being given back to the abuser and non-reported cases for exactly this reason. Some of those children even die.
Chaching- thank you for reaching out to me and for your kind words. Yes you right Rob and I have a love that is unbreakable and I am blessed for that. That is what has saved me along with my beautiful girls every day especially the days I felt I wanted to just give up.as far as drugs or alcohol I could never go down that road because I could never, would never want to be not in control of my life ever again.I hope our story along with our book helps others know that they are not alone and incest does not have to define you. Thank you again for your support its nice to know there are nice people in the world like yourself that are supportive that make it a little easier to talk about our story.thank you.☺
ReplyDeleteHi Ms.Boland, Thank you for reaching out to us and for your review of our book. I too am sorry for your pain that you have endured but am glad you are finally able to talk about it because it does help to finally let some of it go. I will definitely go to your site and thank you for any help you can give me.The more help we can give others the better this world will be. Thank you again. Stay strong and God bless ❤
ReplyDeleteCheryl:
ReplyDeleteJust watched your story on Crime Watch Daily. I am so sorry you had to deal with your father's sick attacks when you were growing up. I feel sorry for the people in your family who blamed you for what happened to him. You and your husband are remarkable.
God Bless all of you. You did nothing wrong.
Donna Loock
Donna Loock, Thank you so much for reaching out to me and for your kind words. Your support means a lot. We hope by telling our story the others who have been through their own kind of battles whatever they may be know that they are not alone as I thought I was and that abuse does not have to define the rest of your life. You use the strenght that has gotten you through that horror and apply it to your every day life and you will be able to accomplish anything you set your mind too.Thank you again .
Deletein 1986 my abuser was charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor found guilty and his sentence was 1 year of marraige couseling. I was 6 and the judge said it was one of the worst cases of child sex abuse he had ever heard.
ReplyDeleteLes seems like a toxic, unhappy person who's unable to fathom desperation, pain, and an older child's understanding that few can override parental rights and family privacy, and that finding somewhere else to go outside of a foster home or the streets is not reality for many runaways. Oh and, now little girls and boys increasingly get taken by sex traffickers, so there's another option!
ReplyDeleteRape is also a sin, and you ignoring these claims bc of her violence in self-defense that led to her father's death is unconscionable and you seem truly disgusting. I'm sad that you used this site of openness and healing to voice your probably sexist and disgusting dissent. And in so many messages! Your complete disregard for the experiences of the author and any other children who suffer abuse shows that you're completely evil. And I PRAY that you don't have your own children-- you probably wouldn't believe their claims either.
I'm not Christian, but you seem like you (and those who share your ignorant opinions) need some Jesus, so I found a reading of the Bible's passages on rape. The last sentence is key...
"For the Israelite woman who was raped, this text [Deuteronomy] ensured that she was heard. She was believed. These laws created an environment in which a survivor of assault already knew that she would be safe and protected by the community. In our own communities, this should reinforce our responsibility to treat accusations of rape as credible.[8]
After analyzing reported cases of sexual assault over a 10-year period, a 2010 study found that between 2 and 10 percent of accusations were false.[9] Yet, even this fails to represent the rarity of false accusations, since it only includes reported cases. This same study also found that many victims of sexual violence did not report the crime because they “did not think anything would be done about it.”[10]"
https://erlc.com/resource-library/articles/god-is-not-silent-what-the-bible-teaches-about-sexual-assault
I'm not toxic, I just don't abide First Degree Murder, why do you? You only kill someone if you are in imminent threat of losing your life or that of someone else. Everything else is handled through the court system.
ReplyDeleteAs a Christian murder is wrong vut even God will forgive that. It may have n9t been the right choice but everyone makes bad decision's. How can we judge someone who experiences frequent and psychological damage in tge most critical years of their life. I couldn't even imagine, but it is always 3asier to speak and say what should have been done over actually living it. If you support God and do not support murder, God is compassionate and loving, he would not act as vile and disgusting as you. Again, God does forgive a murderer, so take your nastiness elsewhere!
DeleteThis is what's wrong with this world. You Love the murderer...
ReplyDeleteBetter hope Cheryl don't get pissed off at you, she don't go to the police...
I really can’t figure out why you relish in harassing these people but don’t you dare come here pretending to be a Christian. God is ashamed of you, Les. You’re a sad troll who takes pleasure in trying to further hurt traumatized people. You’re trash and you know it.
ReplyDeleteSnowflake Jenn, you ever heard of thou shall not kill? Got any idea where that came from?
ReplyDeleteWhatever you say, you sad little man. You trolls have to come up with better insults than “snowflake.” That doesn’t hurt anyone’s feelings
ReplyDeleteJames 4:12 - There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
Snowflake-Jenn sounds like your are judging me and doing some name callin', classy... You also didn't respond to the commandment Thou shalt not kill that was violated here. If you are going to respond to something, respond to that. Bet you won't. You somehow want to hack on me, yet give Cheryl a pass for murder.
ReplyDeletelol Cheryl was judged In the eyes of the law and it’s between her and her God now. I’m not judging you. You are a sad little man who comes here to troll. Where is the lie?
ReplyDeleteHere are some verses about the atonement for hurting kids:
But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.
It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin.
Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward
Fathers, do not provoke your children, lest they become discouraged.
Don’t go around cherry picking the Bible to fit your agenda. The Bible warns against that, too. Some might even argue that what happened to him was Biblical justice. I feel sorry for you. I’m gonna pray for you, Les. You aren’t going to rile me up. I see you for what you really are
Snowflake-Jenn Gotcha huh? LOL! The Ten Comandments aren't really Cherry picking are they...
ReplyDeleteThat’s exactly what it is. If the commandments of the Old Testament were all we’re supposed to believe, that would be the whole book. If you don’t believe the whole of God’s Word, don’t pretend to believe any of it.
ReplyDeleteYou’re still sad and getting sadder with every comment. You’re so desperate for attention it’s really quite funny. I admit, I’m only even come back to watch you squirm. You will come here to argue with people offering and seeking comfort, which makes you about as unChristian as it gets. We are meant to love each other and treat people the war we would like to be treated and reserve judgements for God. I can see that you live for this, which is sad on so many levels. I sure hope you’re not fixated on this because you can relate to Cheryl’s abusive dad. I’ve never seen anyone defend a child molester, them victim blame a child so hard. It really makes me wonder what your investment in all of this really is.��
You’re not gonna “get me.” I’m a Biblical scholar. A real one. I’m completely immune to your foolishness, but it is fun to watch you keep coming back for more. You can’t hurt my feelings or get me upset because your feelings and opinions are nothing to me except a mistake to correct. You on the other hand, have to call me a snowflake when of the two of us, you seem worlds more delicate, ������. Like I said, there’s not going to be anything you can do to get a rise out of me. You’re honestly not capable. Your “points” don’t even mean anything
How embarrassing for you, Les.
Again, you’re in my prayers. I hope God leads you to peace and that you’re able to find him in your heart instead of letting all that hatefulness fill it up.
Snowflake Jenn, you are as nutty as a barge-load of English Fruitcakes. I didn't comment here to open a debate with a Jesus Freak, nor did I claim to be Christian. The whole Cheryl "version" is a lie, and the father was murdered by her. You are the one spouting Biblical BS to defend a murderer. I don't understand that part, but that problem exists in your crazy braincells. Murder is indefensible, you sound like an irrational bible thumping idiot defending her. For some reason the irrationality of defending a murderer with Bible verse escapes your brain, but that's how you people are.
ReplyDeleteLol your first comment to me was an out of context Bible quote but not all of a sudden the Bible doesn’t matter. Again, sad little man, you’re just revealing yourself as a hateful troll who will say anything to try and get a ride out of someone. Either you believe the Bible or you don’t but if you do, you believe it’s up to God and if you don’t, it’s up to the judicial system. At no point is it up to you, but you keep coming back. Sorry rationale and logic hurts your feelings so much. That’s got to be tough for you. I hope you’re able to get a life some day lol
ReplyDeleteYou are a thriver and warrior!! May I ask if you are close to your sister now?
ReplyDeleteI admire your strength and courage. I myself went through years of sexual, physical, and mental abuse. I never could really talk it in great detail to anyone. When I got older it was too embarrassing and painful to talk about. The people who did these things to me never faced justice. One of them actually said that it was a long time ago and I need to get over it. I still have nightmares to this day about everything. Thank God you have had someone so wonderful by your side all of these years. I know it took a lot of courage to share your pain and I thank you for that.
ReplyDeleteYou believe in God, dear?
ReplyDeleteThe only Way you'll survive.
God bless you.
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